so president obama at this hour waiting to see what comes out of the meeting with vice president joe biden and democrats. he and the white house feel confident moving forward with this deal, they believe it is a good deal and believe it has a strong chance of passing the senate. and then ultimately through the house, melissa? >> do you think there is a chance we may actually hear from the president tonight? >> reporter: i think that is unlikely as this hour. i also think it is unlikely before both chambers take a vote. i think that what is more realistic, and we have not gotten any guidance, the white house not weighing in on this, at all. but i think if we had to guess i would say we would probably hear from him tomorrow as opposed to tonight. it is getting late. and of course the talks are ongoing. and there is a lot of process that has to unfold before folks go to bed tonight. so i think that the more likely scenario, if it moves through both chambers, will be tomorrow if it actually does. >> kristen welker, and we have lots more, and what appears to be a last-minute breakthrough